Reflections from Genesis/Bereishit
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Okay my friends, here is a place to dialogue regarding the book of Genesis/Bereshit. Feel free to share your questions, comments and reflections from the daily readings.
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February 11, 2019 at 12:33 am /
Sevn I have been so lifted in Yehovah’s word through your in depth study releasing your skills to us.
For me it confirms time and time again that Yehovah created us – to respond to his plans and purposes because that is the way he functioned us.
I saw clearly in Gen 24:40 where Abraham instructed his servant confidently in searching out a wife for Yitzchak because Abraham had obeyed Yehovah’s plan/image/likeness.
“He replied to me (servant), Yehovah,whose ways I have followed will send his angel with you and make your errand successful….
For Yehovah’s plans and purposes to be activated he needs us to follow his way that others may have success. In creating in his image/likeness so that we could procreate in his image/likeness to me is the womb of the Scriptures. His way, my (his) way that we may see the mighty hand of El Shaddai release his majesty!
Thank you and be blessed in your diligence.
February 2, 2019 at 9:03 am /
Day 33- Today we are reading chapters 21-22.
January 24, 2019 at 6:58 am /
My thoughts on the last 2 chapters is: What a shame that we as kids are never blessed by our parents.
We do if possible. My oldest son likes being blessed and when he took over the bed shop he wanted our blessing to open it. Quit amazing I thought. But he wanted to open 7 days a week. I said to him we cannot bless this for it is against YeHoVaH’s will. We can only bless the store if you close on Saturday. He was shocked and said but this is the best selling day.
We explained to him that it is a question of faith…do you really believe that he is with you and wants to bless you then you have to be obedient. We gave him some bible verses to chew on. After a day or so he came back and said to me the blessing is more important than being open on Saturday. Now he isn’t a Thorah observant child our kids were not raised in this.
He struggled a whole year fearing he had made the wrong decision. A few people even said that it was very stupid of him.
But YeHoVaH is faithful and he is now running 2 years and every one is very surprised at how well it is running even though he works sometimes alone but with little employees.
He now is much more open to what we share and knows in his heart that living Thora is right.
SO to me this is my thought on all these blessings and how living in obedience pays off!
I also was very blessed in my spirit when I read the blessing Judah had received, vers 10 and 11 You really see Yeshua in these verses. And the scepter has departed from Judah because Yeshua has come and now he has the sceptre.
The part about the donkey also made me think of the triumphal entrance of Yeshua and his crucifixion. How stunning.
The christians and the Jews both have been cut off and through Yeshua is the only way to get back in to the covenant. Wow what a story.
February 1, 2019 at 6:46 pm /
Judith, what a wonderful testimony about your standing for Yehovah and His Torah and for your son wanting that blessing so much that he is honoring Yehovah, Who is his Provider, and He will continue to provide for your son. And by the grace of Yehovah, someday your son will be blessing his children as you’ve done with him.
It’s a joy to see how Torah points to Yeshua in sooo many ways! Thank you for bringing these points up for us, both Jew and Gentile, to rejoice in.
Shabbat Shalom to you and your family and everyone here!
Donna
January 23, 2019 at 7:56 am /
Day 23- Today we are reading chapters 49-50; the last 2 chapters of Genesis/Bereishit! Wow, that was fast!
January 24, 2019 at 7:10 am /
this really went fast and I never had expected to enjoy it so much and to get so much out of it even though I am slow in reading and it takes me a lot of time….YehoVaH is blessing my diligence;-)
blessings
January 23, 2019 at 7:52 am /
Shalom,
Read the last two chapters of Genesis my thoughts were about how many struggles I have had, and how now I am who I am because of them. HALLELUYAH Praise YHWH above all names!
January 22, 2019 at 11:48 pm /
I actually did an in-depth study on the whole ‘British Israelism’ theory decades ago when first hearing about brits being from Ephraim and Mannaseh – extremely interesting and it’s all very anecdotal, but the parallels really get strange. Most importantly, it is NOT a Claim to Fame, but should be considered a Name of Shame for WHOMEVER the descendants of the 10 Lost and Wayward tribes are IF they do not come out of Babylon and RETURN TO YHVH. The prophets make this very clear. The Hebraic Roots movement and an unprecedented worldwide thirst for Pure Torah sure seem to bear out the truths spoken by the prophets and indicate we are in the End Times.
January 23, 2019 at 7:47 am /
Amen Daniel.
I too believe that the hebraic roots are the movement of the waking up of the house of Israel.
halleluYah
January 22, 2019 at 10:27 pm /
Two Thoughts
1) Gen 48:5-6 Israel claims Joseph’s 2 son’s as his own and said any born after them are Joseph’s. This is very interesting and am willing to bet has some sort of significance to this.
2) Joseph bought all the land, cattle and Egyptian people for Pharaoh. So this means Pharaoh owned everything but their own priests and the Hebrew people. At what point in history did the Egyptian king no longer own the land and people? At the exodus? Seriously need to know more about Egyptian history!
January 23, 2019 at 7:35 am /
Hi Denise, I had the same thought in Genesis;-) I did read that the sons of his sons were born between his legs which meant they were his.
The big meaning of Jacob taking the 2 sons is the story of lost sheep of Israel to whom the Messiah came the first time. We can read this in the Hosea for example when YeHoVaH divorces the 10 tribes. Do you know this part of history?
I think that Egypt never was the same after the Hebrews left. They never became so rich and famous again. It was over. Also “the ANGEL” left so the blessings left also. But for what it is worth are my thoughts.
January 22, 2019 at 11:26 am /
I find it so moving that when Efraim and Manassa are brought to Jacob he says; “they shall be called by the name of their brothers in their inheritance….. Makes me think of all the promises yet to come which is proof that All who come to to the Thora will be grfted into this family.
The God who has been Jacobs Shepard to that day….the angel (at Jabok) who has redeemed him from all evil.
Beautiful …”that my name may live on in them, and the names of my fathers Abraham and Isaac”!
I find vers 22 very interesting. portion is in Hebrew here Sh’ch’m…which can mean shoulder but is also attached to “cast down”…..to me he is being restored of all that he had lost?
Simeon and Levi don’t really get a blessing the way I read it?
I love the Blessing Josef receives. It looks as if Jacob knows what has happen and is proud that Josef never held it against his brothers and because of this YeHoVaH blessed him, used him, and worked through him and from him the Messiah will come…
it says The Shepard….The Stone of Israel….. what amazing!
AND ON THE CROWN OF THE HEAD OF THE ONE DISTINGUISHED AMONG HIS BROTHERS..
what an amazing history and what a tremendous blessing te be able to be part of this story and this history HIS STORY!
shalom
January 22, 2019 at 8:58 am /
Day 22- Today we are reading chapters 46-48. I have heard it said that anything done for 21 days in a row creates a habit! For those who have been consistent in you daily readings I say- CONGRATULATIONS!
January 22, 2019 at 5:53 am /
Hi Everyone,
Because of the message of Keith, Jono and Nehemiah. There is something that I really must share.
We all were brought up with the knowledge that the brothers sold Joseph.
years ago I read this and thought….they didn’t they didn’t sell him. But I couldn’t find anyone who read it this way nor would look at it with me.
The I found ” Aleph Beta”. This guy goes into deep lengths tot explain the story of Josef and to my astonishment he also says that the story of Josef doesn’t say that the brothers sold him but that the Midianites sold him to the Israelites (or the other way around). But in any case in chapter 42:21 the boys say what they are guilty of “they saw the distress of his soul when he pleaded with them, yet they would not listen!! This to YeHoVaH is a severe sin. They had NO COMPASSION.
but no ware are they blamed or is it written that the brothers sold him. For they also had no idea what had become of him.
Ok I had written this explanation volute before but it didn’t turn up….sorry about that.
January 21, 2019 at 4:10 pm /
Hi Everyone,
I am back;-)
Just for the fun I counted all the times to word Brothers were written. It is 62 times.
Anyone have thoughts on this? It is a big theme, the brothers!
Some words play a special role in this story; Myrrh, dreams, 5 or one fifth, donkey, pit, 3 or 3 days,
goats and coats, a man, please examine and see….just to mention some I noticed.
I think it is beautiful to see how Judah has changed and how the sorrow of their father has really hit the brothers and especially Judah. Reuben wants to pass it on to his sons and doesn’t really take responsibility.
I also noticed that the time the name Jacob. and in vers 21 it says and the sons of Israel. A shifting is taking place. The spirit of Jacob revived and he was Israel again….and YeHoVaH spoke to ISRAEL. Jacob, Jacob and he said; “hineni” (and my heart jumps up)
I AM YeHoVaH the Elohim of your father; do not be afraid; to go down (away from my house) to Egypt, for I will make you a great nation there. I WILL GO DOWN WITH YOU to Egypt, and I will also surely bring you back up again.
Wow how awesome is this.
The Father is going DOWN with them. What stuns me is that at the end of the Egypt story it reads in Ex.12 vers 41…And at the end of four hundred and thirty years TO THE VERY DAY, all the HOSTS OF YEHOVAH went out from the land of Egypt!! They were no longer needed there. Even though the Israelites did not realize this YeHoVaH was with them the whole time. Even in their hardship. I have also noticed this in my life and it is so amazing that He is even closer then.
What an emotional story how all the emotions of everyone must have one big mess but also of Joy and gladness that the family would be united again.
It is for sure that the brothers never sold Josef because when they talk among themselves they Donn’t say that they sold him. they too do not what what has become of him.
what is surprising also is that there is s distinction between the order of the brothers. When Josef was in the pit it was only the sons of Leah that were there and not the brothers of the concubine.
When the genealogy is mentioned only Josef’s name is spoken of….He was the rightful firstborn. He was pasturing the Fock with his brothers, the sons of Bilhah and Zilpah. Leahs sons are not mentioned here. how strange.
I just love this story and I have always strongly related myself and my live to that of Jacob. Funny that my daughter we also named Manassa.
blessings everyone!
January 21, 2019 at 6:10 pm /
Shalom Judith,
What a Wonderful witness to the Unimaginably Beyond Awesome Heartfelt Presence that is our Abba Father YHVH and – as He Shares – the “Infinitely Innumerable Recognizably Unimaginable Ways I am here with you and for you so that you may Experience Me as I am and not how you have been taught to think Me to be.”
Todah Raba Abba YHVH!
Keep on keeping on… in Love! ?
Dale
January 22, 2019 at 9:46 am /
wow Dale what a beautiful thing to say!
I am sitting here with tears in my eyes.
Carefully I try to share and what a beautiful complement you gave me.
ABBA Father is my life and so awesome to indeed live with Him!!
Shalom Judith
January 21, 2019 at 2:54 pm /
Hi Just testing to see if I can post again;-)
January 21, 2019 at 12:40 pm /
🙂 When I read this vers “Gen 45:24 So he sent his brethren away, and they departed: and he said unto them, See that ye fall not out by the way. ” the first thought that came to my mind was “Okay boys, try not to screw up again and behave yourselves on the way home!”
Not to far off in thought as strongs has for “fall not out” 7264 רגז
râgaz
raw-gaz’
A primitive root; to quiver (with any violent emotion, especially anger or fear): – be afraid, stand in awe, disquiet, fall out, fret, move, provoke, quake, rage, shake, tremble, trouble, be wroth.
In other words, try and walk a straight path this time kids! 🙂
January 21, 2019 at 7:10 am /
Day 21-Today we are reading chapters 44-45. Get ready for a dialogue upgrade…coming soon!
January 20, 2019 at 1:12 pm /
HiJulie! Interesting questions about Joseph’s sons. I am reading the book called “The Writing of God Secret of the Real Mount Sinai” by Miles R. Jones. In this book he goes into pretty good in depth teaching about the linage of the Pharaohs and Joseph and his sons. In a nutshell. When the pharaoh that knew Joseph died Joseph had his sons in place in the kingdom government. It basically became a family affair and the Egyptians were being booted out of their own government. That is why the pharaoh that knew not Joseph was so adamant about the Hebrew population. If you get the book it is about in pages 69-70. It makes sense politically how a country can be taken over from within, in this case by Hebrews. Which was not God’s intent that they should be there so God stirred the pot and out they went! 🙂
January 20, 2019 at 7:05 pm /
Hi Denise Shalom
Thank you that sounds like a book I should read . We do tend to go off on our own direction and God does redirect us and correct every son and daughter He acceptts we hopefully listen before we produce an extra problem like Abraham and Sarah trying to produce their own son of promise OH OH .
January 22, 2019 at 7:27 am /
Check out David Rohl’s book- Pharaohs and Kings : A Biblical Quest There is a lot in there about the timeline of Exodus and he brings in a lot of evidence for a biblical time line. It has a great appendix with in-depth information.
January 20, 2019 at 7:39 am /
Day 20-Today we are reading chapters 42-43.
January 19, 2019 at 7:18 pm /
Hi Julie again In my ladt post my phone predicive text said Ephesians I meant Ephriam…. sorry
January 19, 2019 at 7:16 pm /
Shalom to everyone
I wonder where Ephriam and Manasseh,s descendants ended up as Jacob Accepted them in as his sons did they replace their father Joseph in inheritance . I was taught that Ephesians was the British isles and Manasseh the USA if so then Manasseh s name meaning would make sense as many people have forgotten their hardship by becoming Americans and their parental home .
January 19, 2019 at 6:11 pm /
Yosef rides in Pharaoh’s chariot, gets the gold chain, sounds a bit like what happened to Mordekai.
January 19, 2019 at 12:52 pm /
What I noticed in today’s chapter is the correlation between Ephraim [double ash heap: doubly fruitful] (the plural of Ephrath – Bethlehem) and the ash heap outside the camp (which we haven’t yet gotten to of course) and that Moshe moved his tent outside the camp at some point and Yehovah still met Moshe there – outside the camp. Ephraim’s name is prophetic in myriad ways.
January 19, 2019 at 11:06 am /
Shabbat Shalom!
If anyone is interested in the deeper meanings of Yosef’s life in comparison to Yeshua’s, check out a teaching by Steven Ben-Nun at Israeli News Live titled Joseph’s Timeline Reveals Messiah’s Coming.
Hearing all the comparisons of these men’s lives is wonderful because of how Yehovah has His hand in all things!!!
Donna
January 19, 2019 at 10:35 am /
there is so much information in the story of Josef, so much we can engage in. it will take a life time to work it all out. I am so enjoying these stories and getting to know our “hidden family”
Sometimes the things I write don’t show up sorry about that, I had shared some information on the story of Josef in the pit but it doesn’t show up here. too late to do it all again.;-(
How would your lives look like if were looked at like Josef was looked at by Protifar….He saw that YeHoVaH was with him and how YeHoVaH caused all that he did to prosper in his hand!! This is my prayer also that others will see His good works through me.
In Chapter 40 vers 15 he is back in the “pit” this indeed doesn’t discourage him he holds vast to YeHoVaH. Then he is forgotten…he must also feel forgotten by his family and father. Was doesn’t his father come and look for him? He must have thought this.
What also is amazing to me is that Josef without being asked gives the far advice on how to handle the situation but does not put himself in the picture.
The question I have in this matter is….is this the same Pharao who put him in the pit in the first place?
vers 42 made me think….he past the test! When we have run the race we also will receive garments of fine linen. Also in Ez. 16:8-13 amazing how the bible speaks.
January 19, 2019 at 8:46 am /
Yes Timothy I also noticed this. He doesn’t feel sorry for himself. I cannot say I always have this same attitude ;-(
What I also noticed was the with the caravan came incense and mire and more. This made me think of Yeshua and what His parents received from the astrologers.
January 19, 2019 at 8:35 am /
When I first started to understand how important it is to understand Hebrew meanings of words I learned that I was raised as a Westerner. As a Westerner my concept and understanding of words and what they mean and cause me to think, is different than Easterner thought and concepts of the same words.
January 19, 2019 at 8:29 am /
This morning as I was reading chapter 41 and came to verse 51:
Yosef named the first-born Menashe, meaning, “Hashem has made me forget completely my hardship and my parental home.”
I thought to myself surly Yosef couldn’t have forgotten these things which caused me to research the word forget.
In the “Ancient Hebrew Lexicon of the Bible” by Jeff A. Benner, I had to go to two places to get a full understanding.
The first is “The removal of a debt through payment, forgetting or forgiving.” The second is “To find something forgotten or hidden.”
In the second understanding I had my “AHHA!” moment. Yosef wasn’t saying he forgot like westerner’s would think he was saying his hardship and parental home is hidden.
Do you think this is a correct way to understand this verse?
January 19, 2019 at 8:53 am /
wow Timothy what a beautiful insight. Also because I named my daughter Manassa. Some what because of the same reason. To realize that it is about forgiving and “hidden” made me think. Our “family” is sometimes hidden and we find our real family when we come to the hebraic roots. That’s amazing. we find our biblical Familie that has been hidden from us.
Wow thanks a lot. I pray that my daughter will also find this hidden family.
thanks Timothy
January 19, 2019 at 7:25 am /
Day 19-Today we are reading chapter 41 in the awesome book of Genesis/Bereishit…Epic!
January 18, 2019 at 10:01 pm /
Going back to 37:20
And we shall see what becomes of his dreams. . .
.Yahovah just gets a chuckle out of “the impossible”
January 18, 2019 at 8:17 pm /
Shabbat Shalom,
When I read this part of Yosef’s life there is a word that comes to mind.
After Yosef was betrayed by his brothers and sold and brought to Egypt he did not lay around feeling sorry for himself. When the Egyptian Potiphar bought him Yosef assessed the situation and began serving his new master (1st clue)
Yosef began serving his master finding his niche and running the show with only one person to report to. Then when his masters wife tried to entice Yosef into betraying his master by being with her Yosef said “How then could I do this most wicked thing, and sin before Hashem? (2nd clue).
When Yosef finds himself in prison for a crime he did not commit do we see him say man I just can’t win and give up? No, even though YHWH moved the Jailer to extend kindness to him, Yosef stepped up and did his part “The chief jailer put in Yosef’s charge all the prisoners who were in that prison, and he was the one to carry out everything that was done there.” (3rd clue)
I wonder if anyone has thought I know what word came to Timothy’s mind?
The word for me is INTEGRITY!
January 19, 2019 at 7:45 pm /
Shalom Timothy
The ability to serve someone who is in authority over you who is a gentile ruler seems to be a common trait of those Yehovah uses to work out his goal for humanity . Moses was trained in pharaohs household and was hardworking and industries even in his Father in laws caravans . also Daniel and his companions too serving under Nebuchadnezza rule he to was accused and his integrity tried by fire and lions yet still held fast during to his Faith in Yehovah . And Daniel and Joseph were used to show rulers the interpretations of dreams .
January 18, 2019 at 4:45 pm /
Just a reminder the Torah Pearls are on your BFA Ambassador Card. I’ve been listening to the ones related to this weeks reading. The teaching is wonderful.
January 18, 2019 at 4:20 pm /
Hi,
Yes Keith this is very Interesting. The genealogy of Jacob and only Joseph is mention. He is the original firstborn. Het was to marry Rachel I think even from YeHoVaH’s point of view. All the rest is man made mess;-)
I have followed a n explanation of Joseph with “Aleph Beta”. I would like to share there point of view which I very much enjoyed.
there are 8 points that match the story of Genesis 21 & 37.
JCACOB SENDS JOSEPH away Abraham sends Ishmael away
To Shechem (shechemah shechem and the word used with Hagar is Shelech
Before shechem was a city it was a shoulder, Abraham puts the water on his shoulder.
Josef is sent but gets lost and starts wandering (to’eh) Ismael is sent and he and his mother get lost& start wandering. (To’eh)
Later the brothers will cast down (SH’l’kh)…. Mother of Ishmael will also cast him down (sh’l’kh)
The brothers sit a distance away Hagar sits a distance away.
There is no water in the pit there is no water in the story.
There is bread, the brothers sit and eat also here is bread that Abraham gave.
Once Josef is sent, he ends op in Egypt Once Ishmael is sent, he ends up in Egypt
Here Josef marries here Ishmael marries
What does all this mean? How many coats was josh stripped of. In the Hebrew it is clear that he gets stripped of 2 coats…there is a repetition here. Gen.37:23
Bechor= is double portion. Josef gets stripped of his birthright and is brotherhood. He does not belong to the Familie anymore.
Also Ishmael is stripped of his Familie and inheritance.
Both these stories seem to look alike. What are they telling us? To me it shows that we can do things for the good or the bad….but in the end YeHoVaH is in control of it all. Ishmael gets blessed and also Josef gets blessed.
In the story I found out that the brothers never really sold Josef. This was a big surprise to me.
The Midianites find Josef and sell him to the Ishmaelites. When Reuben arrives to set him free Josef is not there and he panics. Funny that he gets sold to the Ishmaelite’s.
The brothers never really now what became of him so when they go to their father they are not really lying. They are not directly guilty of selling Josef . But does this mean they aren’t to be seen as quilty of what happened ?
What were they all thinking? What was YeHoVaH thinking?
There is another story that reflex this story.
Someones voice calls out from the ground.
Cain and Abel.
Apathy is the ultimate sin/evil.
* the voice of Abels blood calls out from the ground Josef calls from the pit
* Cain stands by and does not respond The brothers do not respond
*Cain says he doesn’t know what happened to his brother. Also the brothers do not know what happened to their brother
How much doe they all care for the other? I much do we care for the other?
I also noticed that in both parts of the story of Josef the mane theme is “the brothers.” In chapter 37. brothers is written 2x 7 times. This is mane theme in the story.
How are we brothers and do we really care about our brother or is it not our responsibility?
Makes me really think how responsible are we, Are we only responsible for our actions or also those actions that come to pass from our faults?
What’s in our heart?
I see that time cools down our feelings. The brothers first wanted to kill their brother. But Reuben said lets only put him in the pit.
Then without them knowing he gets sold which they also thought of but didn’t do…. But YeHoVaH intervened. But no-one knows this yet.
How terrible some of our actions can turn out to be because we let our anger get the best of us.
This really got me thinking anyway. And to think 10x before I let my anger get the best of me.
Shabbat Shalom everyone.
January 18, 2019 at 8:21 am /
Day 18- Today we are reading chapters 39-40. BTW, we are working on an upgrade to our forum/dialogue options so stay tuned-and patient.
January 17, 2019 at 8:04 pm /
Just love it the way Yahovah works. Hatred, murder plots, slavery, lies, deceit,
And Joseph is off to a key part in the plans of the Almighty, right on time.
January 17, 2019 at 8:02 pm /
Shalom,
In Chapter 37: 24 we read after Reuven had got his brothers to throw Yosef into the pit:
and took him and cast him into the pit. The pit was empty; there was no water in it.
The pit being empty would provide safety for Yosef while Reuven figured out a good time to get his brother, and restore him to his father. We can discern this was Reuven’s plan when we see his reaction in verse 29-30:
When Reuven returned to the pit and saw that Yosef was not in the pit, he rent his cloths. Returning to his brothers, he said, The boy is gone! Now, what am I to do?
I always wondered why his brothers didn’t ask Reuven “what were you doing at the pit?”
January 17, 2019 at 9:33 am /
Day 17-Today we are reading chapters 37-38. Be sure to take notice of the genealogy that emerges from these two chapters!
January 16, 2019 at 12:21 pm /
What stands out to me in this reading about the Dinah debacle are several things:
a) Shechem was more honorable than his father’s entire household – why? Was it because he was trying to do the right thing, even though he had already done a wrong thing?
b) Shechem was following the law of Torah that we find in Deuteronomy (22 I think?). He defiled a virgin, he became circumcised to become part of Israel, he offered to pay Jacob whatever the bride price was.
c) Levi and Simeon broke Torah when they slew the men of that city. By all rights, because he became circumcised in order to become united with Israel, he was no longer a foreigner. Israel failed Shechem and friends by not teaching them what went along with being circumcised but that does not negate the fact that they accepted the sign of the covenant to join themselves to Israel.
d) I have to believe IF Israel and his sons had not essentially coerced Shechem , etc., to be circumcised and leading them to believe they would be united with the family of Israel, the brothers would have been fully within their rights to kill Shechem for defiling their sister because Shechem was a foreigner. But neither Shechem, nor all the other men who were circumcised, would have been considered foreigners when the brothers killed them.
Maybe I’m wrong about the whole circumcision thing but scripture sure seems to make it clear that Levi and Simeon were in the wrong for what they did.
January 16, 2019 at 10:51 am /
I find it interesting that in Yahovah giving Jacob a new name if Isreal, it is noticeable how often jacob is refereed to in the same passage by both names.
Also Rachel passed away in childbirth, Jacob has said to Laban “anyone with whom you find your gods shall not live. And Rachel had them. At the time Rachel was pregnant with Benjamin. After he was born, Rachel passed away.
January 16, 2019 at 11:59 am /
Jack,
That is profound re: the gods and Rachel! In this reading it has been pressing on me that there is a reason that Rachel died at a young age and somehow I kept tying it to idolatry. However, I could not quite grasp how it all fit together. What you put together makes so much sense!
Thanks!
Edie
January 16, 2019 at 10:01 am /
Poeh he this was a tough reading with all the names of Esau’s Familie and the chief’s and the Kings and all who died. The story is about Jacob and suddenly this appears. And then the story of Jacob goes on. There is surely a good explanation for this ? Anyone now?
What popped up for me was 36:31 “Now these are the kings who reigned in the land of Edom before any king reigned over the sons of Israel.”
Never really read that before. Don’t really know what to think about it either.
But i’ll just keep reading!
January 16, 2019 at 7:57 am /
Shalom,
Genesis 35: 2 So Yaakov said to his household and to all who were with him, Rid yourselves of the alien gods in your midst, purify yourselves, and change your clothes.
This problem of alien gods cost the nation of Israel every thing. When I pray asking YHWH to forgive our ancestors of this, I often ponder, if even today Israel still has not rid it self of alien gods.
January 16, 2019 at 7:37 am /
Day 16- Today we are reading chapters 34, 35 and 36.
January 16, 2019 at 2:22 am /
Shalom,
Something that caught my attention from the Torah this morning is Bereshit 35:1-3.
First God speaks to Yaakov, than Yaakov speaks to his family and to all who was with him. Amazing! Elohim calls Yaakov and Yaakov calls his family. It remembers me of what Elohim said about Avraham in Bereshit 18:19 that he will instruct his children to keep the way of YHVH.
This is a great lesson for us today. It speaks about a huge responsibility we have as parents.
When encountering with Elohim there are some certain things we should do: get rid of our idols, purify ourseves and change the clothes. Amazing.
May YHVH give us white roghteous garments.
January 16, 2019 at 7:38 am /
Amen Seb! May it be!
January 15, 2019 at 9:28 pm /
Shalom All,
While translated Scripture may say to “try” the spirits, is that what our Abba Father YHVH said?
Already Shared in a post on January 11th is Confirmation that Abba Refines, Examines and Proves while the adversary tries, tempts and tests. For sake of space, will not repeat that here yet Encourage All with a Heartfelt Desire for what Abba actually said in this matter to give Attention to what is Shared there. ?
As to Proving the spirits, Abba has this to Share with us…
“As you Rest in Me as One I Prove All matters for you through the Timeless Oneness of My Heartfelt Spirit of Love and Truth which is Soft and Tender, Pure and Sweet, Calm, Cool and Peaceful, Smooth, Light and Easy. That which is from Me is Me as I Gently Flow throughout My Creation accomplishing All that I have set out to complete as My Still Small Voice calls to your Attention My Presence within and among you, including as Experienced in the Recognition of My Love and the Inseparable Freedom which Allows for separation from Me. My Spirit and My Word which bring about – or Allow – your Experiences Encountered Serve as Witnesses to the Truth of My Presence within and among All of My Creation.”
Todah Raba Abba YHVH!
“Please Forgive the crookedness of this people, according to the Greatness of Your Kindness, as you have Forgiven this people from Mitsrayim even until now.” And YHVH said, “I shall Forgive, according to your word, but truly, as I Live and All the earth is filled with the Esteem of YHVH, for none of these men who have seen My Esteem and the Signs which I did in Mitsrayim and in the wilderness, and have Shama not My Voice, shall see the land which I swore to their fathers, nor any of those who scorned Me see it.” – Bemidbar (Numbers) 14:19-23
As our Abba Father YHVH continues to Prepare us – in the Tender Loving Way that only He is able – for our return to the Promised Land, may we Follow Him in Spirit and in Truth as we Rest Evermore in Him as One.
Shalom v’Ahava B’Shem YHVH
Peace and Love in the Name of YHVH
Dale
January 16, 2019 at 12:45 am /
Dale!
I really do enjoy your input regarding these topics and questions that come up, but your question ” Is that what our Abba Father said?” My brother, all I have to say is, read your bible namely 2Timothy 3: 16,17 ” All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.”
So now I’ll ask you “is that what our Abba Father said through the one who penned it?”
Peace!
January 16, 2019 at 5:27 am /
Shalom Maurice,
Well, let’s See…
God/Gad is the pagan mightyless one of luck/fortune – the adversary by one of his names and faces many.
“But you are those who forsake YHVH, who forgot My Pure Mountain, who prepare a table for Gad, and who fill a drink offering for Meni. And I shall allot you to the sword, and let you all bow down to the slaughter, because I called and you did not answer, I spoke and you did not Shama, and you did evil before My Eyes and chose that in which I did not Delight.” – Yeshayahu (Isaiah) 65:11-12
“You have no other mighty ones against My Face.” – Shemoth (Exodus) 20:3
“And in all that I have spoken with you take heed. And make no mention of the name of other mighty ones, let it not be heard from your mouth.” – Shemoth 23:13
As Abba has Shared… “Once Spoken, My Word never changes.” (Yeshayahu [Isaiah] 55:11 & Mal’aki [Malachi] 3:6) and “I am not two-faced nor fork tongued” and that it is the “adversary who is the father of lies – and a murderer – and there is no Truth in him”
So… It is Clear in my hearing that what Abba said is not what was penned as you have inquired of above.
Feeling in the Moment that this translation conveys the Essence of what Abba said…
All Scripture is Breathed by Elohim and profitable for Teaching, for Instruction, for Correction, for Setting Straight, for Instruction in Righteousness, that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every Good Work. – 2 Timothy 3:16-17
As I remain – along with others – a work-in-process in the Tender Loving Hands of our Abba Father YHVH – remaining in Quiet Constant Prayer with Him in His Desire that All mankind would be as such – should this not Reflect the Essence of what He said in this matter I Heartfeltly Welcome His Correction whenever He Desires to Provide it.
As Shared in an earlier reply on January 4th, the Scriptures we have today were Once Spoken, then Written, Transcribed, Translated, Chapterized and Versified. Encourage folks to See this post to Shama what our Abba Father YHVH Shares as to His Unleavened Bread of Life.
Good to be Aware that the Messianic Writings from which you quoted above have reportedly been compiled from around 28,000 different Greek manuscripts or portions thereof with no two being in agreement. Also Good to be Aware that when Abba was with us in the flesh He spoke Hebrew – which was “Greek” to the ears of many at that time and which remains so to most this day – and that – with perhaps the exception of the Books of Mark and Luke – the Original Messianic Writings were in Hebrew, with perhaps some Aramaic influence.
Abba Shared with me in Conversation a number of years ago that the corruption of the adversary is far more widely sown – and much closer to us – than we could ever imagine. Our Experiences Encountered Together have Proven many times over the Truth of what He Shared.
This is why our Abba Father YHVH Encourages us to…
“Come to Me – in the Spirit of Relationship not religion – should you Shama and Share in My Desire for the Timeless Oneness of the Love and Truth that is Me so that you may Experience Me as I am and not how you have been taught to think Me to be.”
Todah Raba Abba YHVH!
An Encouraging Word on God/Gad from our Abba Father YHVH…
“And it shall be, in that Day,” declares YHVH, that you call Me ‘My Husband,’ and no longer call Me ‘My Ba’al.’ And I shall remove the names of the Ba’als from her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.” – Hoshea 2:16-17
Todah Raba Abba YHVH!
Shalom v’Ahava B’Shem YHVH
Peace and Love in the Name of YHVH
Dale
January 16, 2019 at 3:59 pm /
I find this a bit confusing:
“As to Proving the spirits, Abba has this to Share with us…
‘As you Rest in Me as One I Prove All matters for you through the Timeless Oneness of My Heartfelt Spirit of Love and Truth which is Soft and Tender, Pure and Sweet, Calm, Cool and Peaceful, Smooth, Light and Easy. That which is from Me is Me as I Gently Flow throughout My Creation accomplishing All that I have set out to complete as My Still Small Voice calls to your Attention My Presence within and among you, including as Experienced in the Recognition of My Love and the Inseparable Freedom which Allows for separation from Me. My Spirit and My Word which bring about – or Allow – your Experiences Encountered Serve as Witnesses to the Truth of My Presence within and among All of My Creation.'”
If I may be so bold as to say this is not a quote from Scripture and I do not see where it even addresses “proving” in any particular sense.
It seems that Yehovah does allow us to “test” or “prove” Him to a degree, in sincerity of heart – just not in the way Israel “tested” or “proved” him at Meribah. I think of Gideon with his fleece – the word (nacah) is the same as the one used for Yehovah “testing” Abraham. It is also the same word used in Deuteronomy 6:16 about not “testing” or “proving” Yehovah in the way He was [nacah] at Meribah. Gideon “proved” Yehovah. Yehovah “proved” Abraham. Israel “proved” Yehovah but the difference here was it was not done with a sincere heart but rather a rebellious one.
I see the difference as determining and identifying whether or not something is truly from Yehovah or if it is another voice. If we simply listened to every voice that claimed to be Yehovah without “testing” or “proving” it, we would likely be battered about as by a strong wind.
I appreciate everyone’s comments in this forum – it is certainly a place to learn!
January 17, 2019 at 6:54 am /
Shalom All,
The Message Abba Shares regarding His Proving All Matters for us through the Truth of His Heartfelt Presence Living within and among us is not a direct quote from Scripture – thus why it was not presented as such – but was Shared by Him in Heartfelt Conversation via His Still Small Voice Spoken within the “Timeless Oneness” that is He and His Word Inseparable – this same Voice we are so Lovingly Encouraged and Instructed to Shama throughout Scripture “for the Words I speak with you are Spirit and are Life.” Should anyone have a Heartfelt need for Scriptural Confirmation as to our Abba Father YHVH’s Instruction to Shama His Voice – or for any portion of the Message Shared – please let me know and I will Delightfully Share such with you. ?
To “Prove” is to establish the Truth thereof while to try, test and tempt is an attempt to cast doubt and disprove Truth.
An Experience Encountered we can All relate to – as a child, and for those among us who have children, also as a parent – is the Heartfelt question from a child to their parent asking for clarification of instruction given as opposed to the grumbling, mocking and scorning about why the instruction is insufficient in one or many ways.
Have Shared in a reply to a post on January 10th how our Abba Father YHVH Refines, Examines and Proves while the adversary tries, tests and tempts. Encourage All to give Attention to that reply and will be Delighted to answer any Heartfelt questions you may have. ?
YHVH appeared to me from afar, saying, “I have Loved you with an Everlasting Love, therefore I shall draw you with Kindness.” – Yirmeyahu (Jeremiah) 31:3
Todah Raba Abba YHVH!
Dale
January 15, 2019 at 6:56 pm /
As I am reading chapter 34, It does make me think of the one world order and how we can be deceived to do things that don’t seem bad or harmful but are not what YeHoVaH wants from us.
The sons of Jacob handle in the flesh as I read it. Do not discuss it with their father nor with YeHoVaH and slaughtered all the men.
Now both parties are acting according to their own desires.
There will come a time and already is here that we will have to have a close relationship with the Holy Spirit to know what to do, where to go and how to act.
we see later on that these 2; Simeon and Levi, are severely punished for this behaviour . Levi gets a second chance because of choosing for Moses but Simeon is sort of kicked out of the Familie.
I pray that I will live so close to HIM that I will never be separated from my Saviour!
January 15, 2019 at 6:42 pm /
Hi Maurice,
It depends on how you see “a real encounter”.
But I have experienced Devine interaction several times.
Mostly at moments when I was really stuck.
Or to encourage me.
It was more like a voice that wasn’t mine. I never “saw Him” if that is what you mean?
I can really say that there is no doubt in my mind that YeHoVaH is real and He is a personal God and that He guides us.
I would not be alive today if it were not for HIM!
Have you?
blessings!
January 15, 2019 at 7:18 pm /
Hello Judith!
And thank you for your response!
I only see a real encounter the way it is discibed in the Book! The Book says try every spirit to see wether it is of God! Jacob had an encounter with Yehovah, his experience was a real one, and not some human imaginings or static fleshly feelings, powered by mere human emotion.
Yehovah also has said that He is looking for the true worshippers who will worship Him in spirit and in truth.
So, that’s my take on true encounters!
Hope this answered you question.:)
January 16, 2019 at 12:19 am /
Maurice,
Now that I see your reply to Judith, regarding Jacob’s encounter with Yehovah, I clearly understand your original question and statement.
Kindly disregard my question about it.
Edie
January 16, 2019 at 12:12 am /
Hi Judith,
I, too, have heard His voice. Twice. Very distinct and very clear. It was like a voice behind me yet inside my head, audible yet not heard with my ears.
He kept His word in both cases.
Amazing!
January 15, 2019 at 6:08 pm /
Has anybody ever had a real encounter with Yehovah, not a crippling kind of encounter like Jacob’s encounter, but a true encounter?
January 16, 2019 at 12:04 am /
Hi Maurice,
Are you saying Jacob’s encounter was not a true encounter with Yehovah – the one when his hip was put out and he was told he would no longer be called Jacob but Israel?
I realize there are two or three ways to interpret your comment so I am just clarifying.
Thanks!
Edie
January 15, 2019 at 8:30 am /
Day 15- Today we are reading chapters 32-33.
January 15, 2019 at 6:36 am /
Hi Linda I can totally understand what you are saying. I also come out of a dysfunctional family and really wanted my own family to be different. To read how hard it must have been for Rikvah breaks my hart. But it is also an encouragement that even in Biblical families there is a lot of strive.
It asks a lot of giving to make things work a little sometimes. But YeHoVaH gives us all we need so it is in balance;-)
Great that we can start from the top!
January 18, 2019 at 11:51 am /
Judith,
Thanks for your comment. Yes, YeHoVah let’s us see all the realities of his people and how much they needed him. Truly, this gives us hope for ourselves.
January 14, 2019 at 5:56 pm /
This observation is from Genesis 25:20 -25. As a mother, I had expectations that my children would be friends and enjoy being together. In this passage, Rivkah has her children fighting in her womb and then told they would be rival nations. I think that would be difficult idea to wrestle with as a parent.
I also noticed it took twenty years for God to answer Yitzchak’s prayer for them to conceive.
Thanks, Keith for switching the feed to the most recent.
January 14, 2019 at 11:17 pm /
Just think how old Abraham was before he became a grandfather of Isaac’s children. He must have been relieved!
January 14, 2019 at 10:49 am /
Jacob has been very busy, and God has blessed him bountifully. I once worked for a Laban, had to quit to get a raise. Cool how the animals became speckled, streaked and spotted. I think of beautiful appaloosa horses, and brindle coated dogs.
So much is going on in these two chapters a tv series could be made of it!
January 14, 2019 at 10:14 am /
Hi everyone,
I can see the chapters went quit fast.
I was very much under the impression of chapters 26 and 27.
I know we have already passed these but I also do not see any comments on these.
If I may I would like to skip back a bit. Just for the sake of sharing my thoughts.
In 26 the Story of the wells hit me. “He settled there” and the he starts digging for a well.
Was Isaac allowed to settle there? The people surely didn’t agree but did YeHoVaH agree?
I do not think so.
For he was to be a sojourner until YeHoVaH gave him the land he and his father had walked.
I don’t read anywhere that the FATHER said he was allowed to settle down….do you”?
I love Nehemiah’s explaining of the name of the wells but I also think there is something els going on here.
Because after digging up the 3rd well he says; “At last YeHoVaH has made room for us, and we will be fruitful in the land”.
Then the YeHoVaH appears to Him…..as if to say now you got it, He doesn’t bless Isaac like Abraham but for the sake of Abram…. “then Isaac pitched his tent”. He got it he was not allowed to settle!
I also find vers 34 bit out of the blue…but understand that he is following his flesh…he gets himself a wife….and not someone the parents would of approved of! The Hittites were people they were not to mingle with.
And then chapter 27. The way I also get this chapter is that the Father is fully in control.
Could Rebekkah have done it differently ….Yes….Could the Father have intervened differently?….Yes…. But it went this way and what I see is that how ever it goes with all our faults HIS WILL WILL BE DONE in the way we choose to listen.
I find this fascinating. He doesn’t do it out side of our will but uses our free will even if it is crocked to do HIS will.
Isn’t that stunning and amazing?
I also find the blessing that Esau receives quit amazing especially the second half of vers 40
But it shall come about when you become restless, that you will brake his yoke from your neck. What is this talking about.? Maybe it does have something to do with the fact that Edom might be the christians…..or is this TOOOOO far fetched???
Oh well ill keep reading;-)
Thanks everyone for all your insights…great to read!
January 14, 2019 at 8:17 am /
Day 14-Today we are reading chapters 30-31.
January 13, 2019 at 8:15 pm /
Shalom All,
A couple of matters to Share from Beresheeth (Genesis) 28.
The Entrance into Eternal Life
In Ya’acov’s vision is Seen the Entrance into the New Yerushalayim and Our Continuing Journey of Eternal Life Resting Forever in our Abba Father YHVH as One. Only through one of the Twelve Tribes of Yisra’el may we enter and Enjoy our Promised Rest.
Abba Shares with us… “Come out of her My Children so that We may continue Our Eternal Journey Exploring the Infinite Abundance of My Inseparable Presence and Provision Flowing Freely from the Storehouse of My Love – My Spirit.”
Todah Raba Abba YHVH!
Only those who Shama the Tender Loving Call of our Abba Father to Share in His Desire for “Relationship not religion” will be Forever Joined Together in His Presence for there is no entrance for any religion, demonomination, movement, branch sect, church or any other device of divisiveness.
So who are the children of Yisra’el whom Abba Describes in Scripture as “the Apple of My Eye”?
Abba Shares with us… “My Children – the Apple of My Eye on whom My Attention remains Eternally and Immovably fixed – are All who Share in My Love of Truth and My Desire to continue spending Eternity Together Resting in Me as One.”
Todah Raba Abba YHVH!
Perfect Love
In verse 17 the Hebrew word yare is translated as “afraid”. This word properly translated means Reverence when of Abba and fear when of the adversary. Ya’acov was not “afraid”, he was in Awe as is confirmed by his own words describing this Experience as “Yare – Awesome!”
Abba Shares with us… “I Desire not your fear, for there is no fear of punishment – nor fear of anything else – in My Love which is Perfect and Complete. I Desire your Heartfelt Attention from which comes your Reverence – your Deeply Abiding Respect, Awe and Love. Remain Aware… you cannot Love apart from Me for I am Love and Love exists only within the Timeless Oneness of My Presence. When separated from Me, you Experience My Love in this very separation made possible only by My Love.”
Todah Raba Abba YHVH!
Shalom v’Ahava B’Shem YHVH
Peace and Love in the Name of YHVH
Dale
January 13, 2019 at 6:04 pm /
Thanks Keith, much easier on my phone.
I’m reminded of how we treat others tends to come back on us. Jacob is quick to complain to Laban about his deceiving him.
I wonder how many problems in my life I could have sidestepped if I had been more careful with my words and actions.
January 13, 2019 at 9:56 am /
Day 13-Today we are reading chapters 28-29. GREAT NEWS! We have tweaked this post so that the most recent comments are on top. It was taking too long to scroll through over 250 posts. Thanks Ken! We are also working on a complete upgrade of our forum for Exodus/Shemot. Stay tuned!
January 12, 2019 at 11:34 pm /
שלום,
Genesis 28:13 (NIV)
13 There above it stood the Lord, and he said: “I am the Lord, the God of your father Abraham and the God of Isaac. I will give you and your descendants the land on which you are lying.
I know this isn’t new, but it still is breathtaking. I am Yehovah, the Elohim of your father… is written in the present tense. Yeshua used this as proof of eternal life. If the Tanakh had said, “I was the God of Abraham,” then we wouldn’t have much to talk about…
January 12, 2019 at 11:38 pm /
Oh, and Yeshua also asserted with that statement that the Tanakh is the Word of Yehovah and is trustworthy.
Amen, anyone?
January 14, 2019 at 11:55 am /
Amen Joseph He is not a man that he should lie ……..
January 12, 2019 at 7:09 pm /
שבמ שלום All,
Issac was 40 years old when he married!! What?? Most first marriages were arranged by the parents when they were mid to late teens. So, why did Abraham wait until Issac was 40? I could understand early 20s, but 40??
Anyone have any background info about this?
Joseph
January 12, 2019 at 11:00 am /
Shalom,
In chapter 25 we read: After the death of Avraham, Hashem blessed his son Yitzchak. And Yitzchak settled near Beer-lahai-roi.
In chapter 26 it is told: There was a famine in the land- aside from the previous famine that had occurred in the days of Avraham-and Yitzchak went to Abimelech, king of the philistines, in Gear.
Continuing in chapter 26: Yitzchak sowed in that land and reaped a hundredfold the same year. Hashem blessed him, and the man grew richer and richer until he was very wealthy.
Growing richer and richer in those days did not mean money in the bank. It meant acquiring land, Animals, crops, water, minerals and all the things living the world were required for man to survive. This meant Yitzchak‘s area of operation was becoming fast and required a lot of resources to sustain.
Then it is shown: And the Philistines stopped up all the wells which his father’s servants had dug in the days of his father Avraham, filling them with earth. And Abimelech said to Yitzchak, Go away from us. For you have become far too big for us. So Yitzchak departed from there and encamped in the wadi of Gear, where he settled.
Yitzchak was a guest in the land. Abimelech was the king. A righteous king must put the needs of his people first. By stopping up the wells that Avraham’s servants had dug king Abimelech was showing his strength and the point of contention he felt was the problem. After Hashem had blessed Yitzchak the king seemed to think there were not enough resources to sustain his people and Yitzchak so he told Yitzchak to go away.
It seems Yitzchak was not upset and did as the king asked, moving to a location Yitzchak thought would make everyone happy. Then we see in chapter 26: But when Yitzchak’s servants, digging in the wadi, found there a well of spring water, the herdsmen of Gerar quarreled with Yitzchak’s herdsmen saying, The water is ours. He named that well Esek, because they contended with him. And when they dug another well, they disputed over that one also; so he named it Sitnah. He moved from there and dug yet another well, and they did not quarrel over it; so he called it Rihoboth, saying, Now at last Hashem has granted us ample space to increase in the land.
Yitzchak never got upset and confronted his hosts he simply moved on until there was a place he could use and be at peace. Yitzchak waited on Hashem and when he did he found peace.
Next we see ;
And Abimelech came to him from Gerar, with Ahuzzath his councilor and Phicol chief of his troops.
After Yitzchak asked why they came we learn:
And they said; We now see plainly that Hashem has been with you, and we thought; Let there be a sworn treaty between our two partied, between you and us. Let us make a pact with you. That you will not do us harm, just as we have not molested you but have always dealt kindly with you and sent you away in peace. From now on, be you blessed of Hashem!
So we see all along king Abimelech had the best interest of his people in mind when dealing with Yitzchak and when Yitzchak did not cause strife with the king YHWH made peace for Yitzchak and an Ally with his neighbors. So what do you think was king Abimelech doing evil to Yitzchak or was he looking out for the best interest of his people?
January 12, 2019 at 10:49 am /
Shabbat shalom to all.
Chapter 24 starts with the example of how Yehovah can work through the obedient and accomplishes his purposes, on his timeline . I notice that the servant is given the responsibility to choose in verse 3 ” I will make you swear by Yehovah, the God of heaven and the God of earth, that you will not take a wife for my son from the daughters of the Canaanites” How much the master Abraham must have trusted this servant . Revka is very cooperative , it is also implied that Isaac is also is obedient to his fathers wishes . I see here that Yehovah has prepared things and people in different places ahead of time to fulfil his overall plan , but that trust in Him is imperative to step out on such journeys. I n our own lives we can give over personal choices like a husband to Him too he is a far better judge than us.
SHALOM
Julie
January 12, 2019 at 10:24 am /
Day 12- Today we are reading chapters 25-27.
January 12, 2019 at 10:13 am /
“so the man entered the house” You could look at it this way. When someone visits me at my home we may sit outside, enjoy the outdoors and have a real nice time. They have entered my house. This may not refer to the physical building. The servant may have wanted to unload his own camels considering what he had them loaded with and may have had the help of Laban’s servants.
Also, notice the “us” in verse 23 and in verse 32 notice the “men’s feet that were with him.” Abraham’s servant did not travel alone with all this expensive cargo and camels. This also suggests either Laban or most likely Laban’s servants did this work.
January 12, 2019 at 10:00 am /
Shabbat Shalom everyone,
I have a little trouble with ver 32. In Hebrew it doesn’t help much.
vers 32: “so the man entered the house….I expect this to be the servant…then “he” unloaded the camels , and he gave straw and feed to the camels” and so on….to me this reads that the servant did all this himself. Which gives me to think that Laban was after the wealth and money more than serving this man and looking for a good partner for his sister?
Is anyone else reading it this way?
Also the way the servant tells the story to the family makes me also think he nows Laban is in for the wealth! He tells the story with the enfaces towards materialism.
But all the “HE’S” ? It is hard to see who is who…..Or is it someone totally different? Is it the messenger that went with “the servant”?
The He in 31 is clearly Laban. But in some scriptures they say the he in vers 32 is Laban. But that doesn’t look right to me. In the Hebrew…. it says; “he unloaded” which would imply the servant Himself. “He” also had to wash his own feet and that of the men with him! To me Laban is not being hospitable .
does anyone have an insite on this matter?
January 11, 2019 at 6:14 pm /
Shalom Beatrice,
The “testing” and “trying” that have been imposed upon our Abba Father YHVH through translated Scripture are not of Him but are yet another way the adversary has corrupted Abba’s Word Perfect as Originally Spoken.
Have been Patiently Waiting for the Moment when Abba and I would prepare this Message and your post has Served as the Inspiration and Confirmation that this Moment has arrived.
Abba Shares…
The earth was Created by Me to remove sin – and All who share in the adversary’s lust for separation from Me – Forever from Our Presence so that We continue to Rest Together as One as Originally Intended by Me in My Love for you and for All of My Creation.
In this furnace of affliction ignited and continually fueled by the adversary’s self-imposed unquenchable burning lust for separation from Me you begin to See your heart as I do as you are tried and tempted by him – as Allowed by Me in My Love – and in his testing of you is Revealed by Me your impurities which bring about your moments of inattentiveness which separate Us and which are in need of Purifying in My Presence under the Tender Gaze of My Ever Watchful Eyes as I establish My Truth through you with each Experience Encountered by you, thus Proving for you My Presence within and among you and My Heartfelt Desire to continue spending Eternity Together as One.
Your Joyful Sharing in My Desire Allows this Refining to continue until the Moment of your fast-approaching Change when – in the twinkling of an eye – you will be like Me and We will Forever Rest Together as One.
Todah Raba Abba YHVH!
Yeshayahu (Isaiah) 14 & Yehezqel (Ezekiel) 28 Serve as Confirmation for us of the earth’s Purpose.
The three Hebrew words that Serve as Confirmation for us that Abba Refines, Examines and Proves while the adversary tries, tempts and tests are…
tsaraph – Well translated as “Refine”- not try – when of Abba as this word is used only to Describe what Abba is Tending to and in some instances what a metalsmith is tending to.
bachan – Well translated as “Examine” when of Abba and “try” when of the adversary
nacah – Well translated as “Prove” when of Abba & “test/tempt” when of the adversary
Rule me Rightly, O YHVH, for I have Walked in my integrity. And I have Trusted in YHVH without wavering. Examine me, O YHVH, and Prove me; Refine my kidneys and my heart. For Your Kindness is before my eyes, and I have Walked in Your Truth. – Tehillim (Psalms) 26:1-3
May All who Encounter this Message Experience Delight in the Peace and Comfort of what is Shared here.
Shalom v’Ahava B’Shem YHVH
Peace and Love in the Name of YHVH
Dale
January 11, 2019 at 5:45 pm /
Wow!
Everybody most be on vacation! Hardly any responses to the last few chapters.
January 11, 2019 at 9:19 am /
Day 11- Today we are reading chapter 24, which happens to be my favorite chapter in Genesis/Bereishit. Oh, it is also the longest chapter within the first 5 books of Moses!
January 11, 2019 at 2:58 pm /
I love the very specific signs the servant asks for. There was no second-guessing if this was the right girl.
January 11, 2019 at 8:39 pm /
It’s amazing how you can read this story a thousand times and never tire of it. There’s something new each time.
January 10, 2019 at 9:51 pm /
WORD NERD ALERT! This is a bit detailed about Genesis 22.8, 14. But I think it might be useful to the group, mostly about doing detailed work in Hebrew with the tools we have.
Genesis 22.8, 14
I am sharing one of my first word studies in Hebrew from about 4 or 5 years ago. I updated it recently, after listening to Keith on the first Scripture Bytes, Passport from Heaven. The link for it is here:
Using that made for an Uh-Oh moment. One part of my original study was completely wrong. I’m going to present the original version (abbreviated) and then the updated.
Root: ראה
GLOSS qal: see; reveal; perceive, understand; select; qal passive: be seen; niphal: become visible; appear; hithpael: face one another; hiphil: show; hophal: be shown
PARSING Hebrew, verb, qal, imperfect, 3rd person, masculine, singular
The above root is used 3 times in these two verse, each with a different word form. The root form means to see, perceive, understand, But in verse 8 its meaning is to select or choose.
So, how does Yi.Ra go from seeing to selecting? I think of it like it is your birthday. You go to Amazon, or go to a store and browse for something you would like. Once you find it, you purchase it.
So, you choose from what you see.
In verse 8 the word has a pronomial suffix, לו – Lo. Used here, it directs the benefit or result of the action back to the one performing it. So, the analogy is that it is Your birthday and you shop for yourself.
So, in Genesis 22.8 has the phrase, “ESV: God will provide for himself” אֱלֹהִ֞ים יִרְאֶה־לֹּ֥ו , but most other translations just has God Provides.
Elohim Yi,Re.Lo
Genesis 22.14a
The same word form is used in Genesis 22.14 except it does not have the pronominal suffix, לֹּ֥ו – Lo. I could not find a direct reference to the use of this word in HALOT, so I assumed the meaning would be the same as Gen 22.8 except the provision would be for Abraham and Issac. My example above would be modified as it is your spouse’s or a child’s birthday, so you go to the store and find something for them.
All English translations I looked at on Blue Letter Bible translates it as provide, On the mountain of Yehovah, God will provide. Consequently, my theory seemed sound. See, my Uh Oh moment, below.
Genesis 22.14b
The third time a derivative of the root ראה is used looks like this:
the word form in 22.14b is יֵרָאֶֽה – Yi.Re.Ah
ראה
GLOSS qal: see; reveal; perceive, understand; select; qal passive: be seen; niphal: become visible; appear; hithpael: face one another; hiphil: show; hophal: be shown
PARSING Hebrew, verb, niphal, imperfect, 3rd person, masculine, singular
It is translated as in the NIV as, “On the mount of the Lord it shall be provided.”’
Like Genesis.22.14a, all English translations that I found has similar translations, save KJV, which has, “And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said tothis day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen.”
The morphology however is:
ראה
GLOSS qal: see; reveal; perceive, understand; select; qal passive: be seen; niphal: become visible; appear; hithpael: face one another; hiphil: show; hophal: be shown
PARSING Hebrew, verb, niphal, imperfect, 3rd person, masculine, singular
And is properly translated, On the mountain of Yehovah, Elohim revealed Himself.
That was my first Uh-Oh moment, but it was one I found years back. The word form completely different than the first two occurrences, which are in the Qal (simple conjugation). This one is in the Niphal. And in HALOT it is:
3. God lets himself be seen, appears, see Knierim Fschr. von Rad (1971) 216ff (with bibliography); CTA 2:700: a. Gn 22.14 and 1S 3.21
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Now after listening to Scripture Bytes I went back to this study. The main thing I had missing was finding other instances of the exact word form and see how they are translated. The problem with this was that my Scripture Program didn’t have an obvious way to do that. Last month I tried it on my desktop (Mac) and my iPad and found I could do a word search on my iPad with the given morphology (conjugation, see the PARSING line, above). And here came my Uh-Oh.
There are 43 cases where Yi.Re is used in the Tanakh. Here are some of them:
Leviticus 13:31 (NIV)
31 But if, when the priest examines the sore, … (examines is the translation )
Deuteronomy 1:35 (NIV)
35 “No one from this evil generation shall see the good land I swore to give your ancestors, (shall see)
Deuteronomy 23:16 (NIV)
16 Let them live among you wherever they like and in whatever town they choose. Do not oppress them. (They choose)
Most are translated as to look, to see, to examine. Only when it has the לֹּ֥ו – Lo pronominal suffix it is translated as to choose or to select.
Without the Lo suffix, Yi.Re translated as to look, to examine, to see, to appear. No where did I find “to provide” except in 22.14
The proper translation should be something like, Genesis 22:14
‘So Abraham called that place The Lord Will See. And to this day it is said, “On the mountain of the Lord He will reveal Himself.”’
I’ll let better translators polish that for us! But the gist is that on the mountain Yehovah saw Abraham’s faith and obedience. And Yehovah revealed Himself to Abraham.
The main things that happen is that Abraham declares that Yehovah will provide the sacrifice acceptable to Him.
Second, Yehovah sees Abraham’s faith in offering Issac to Him.
Third, Yehovah revealed Himself to Abraham.
So what is happening with this English translation???
When I first started learning Hebrew I was digging into Psalm 37. It took me a while to learn how Hebrew words were put together and how to use the Hebrew Lexicons. So, I had a small epiphany: I would use LXX Septuagent! I know enough Greek to do business with it. I have several Greek lexicons. I could do the word studies in the Tanakh using Greek. Cool.
Almost.
The problem was the LXX was only an approximation of what I was discovering in Hebrew. The LXX was one of the earliest large scale translation of a large document into another language. So, one should expect mistakes in translation methods. Looking at LXX was like a 3000m/10,000 foot overview of the Hebrew text, where modern translations are more like a 300m/1000ft flyover. All translations are to some extent commentary, but LXX had a lot of commentary. Nehemia Gordon, in the Hebrew Yeshua and the Greek Jesus , Chapter 6, Paragraph 2, flatly says that the LXX had bad translators. One thing he pointed out is that many of the translators for the LXX simply didn’t know Greek enough to do a proper job, so they simply did a direct word-for-word, mechanical translation in many places.
Back to Gen 22.14:
Now what I believe happened in Gen 22.14 is that the translators used TRADITION instead of Translation. Everyone knows this is where Yehovah is named Jehovah Jireh (except He isn’t named that here; the mountain where 22.8-14 happened is named that). So, I believe the translators “forced” the translation to what every already knows and has their warm & fuzzy feelings about. Same thing happens with the Avinu prayer in Matthew 6, where it says Hallowed by Thy Name, which is not the best translation, but is traditional.
This is why we should dig deep into the Hebrew text. Most of us won’t learn Hebrew like Eliezer ben Yehuda, or a Nehemia Gordon, but learning to use Hebrew lexicons and searching the Tanakh for other examples will go a long, long way
Hope this helps,
Joseph
January 11, 2019 at 5:58 am /
Thank you so much Joseph! I will have to re-read a few times, as even the comprehension of English is often enough challenging for me. 🙁 But I can already see, that the phrases and words are even sooo much deeper. So thank you for this!
I would like to ask whether I understood correctly or not. You say that in the Avinu it should not be Hallowed BE your name but rather Hallowed BY your name??
Or was this a spelling mistake? Thanks for clarification!
January 10, 2019 at 9:26 pm /
More שלום,
Genesis 22.5
Abraham tells his servants to wait whilst he and Issac to worship and return to them. Abraham “might” be lying to his servants, knowing that he is to sacrifice Issac.
But he might be speaking in faith. Knowing that Yehovah has promised His blessing on Abraham through Issac’s descendants, he believed either Yehovah would raise Issac from the dead, or stop the sacrifice
Either way, he had Issac with him, a knife, and a mountain to visit.
January 11, 2019 at 6:36 am /
Shalom Joseph,
Good to be here with you for these continued “Lessons In Love”.
Recognize this is only speculation which is suggested here, yet Desire Not this to be a stumbling block for anyone Happening upon this conversation.
No, Avraham was not lying.
To Worship is to Follow – as Abba Shares, “to Shama My Voice” – for if we are not Following our Abba Father YHVH in Spirit and in Truth – we are left toiling with the adversary however unawares.
Abba Blessed Avraham because he “Shama My Voice” not because Abba found any doubt or deception within him in this matter.
Keep on keeping on… in Love!
Dale
January 10, 2019 at 9:25 pm /
שלום All,
Two small posts and then a monster post.
First,
Genesis 22.1
See my note on Genesis 12.1 because this is Abraham’s faith all over again. Abraham answerd הִנֵּֽנִי Hi.Ne.Ni, Here I am. Abraham uses this repeatedly. Moses used it at the burning bush. Isaiah used it in Yehovah’s throne room.
Yehovah commanded Abraham to sacrifice Issac. Abraham didn’t complain, didn’t moan, didn’t rebel. Abraham got up early in the morning, gathered what he needed for the sacrifice, and went where Yehovah told him.
Amazing faith!!
January 10, 2019 at 8:07 pm /
Last post and then I shall go to bed and get some sleep…
It just really struck me when I checked the verse Gen 22:14 in Hebrew. I expected to find the word Moriah and was curious since I thought that Moriah means teaching. But then there was no mention of Moriah but of Yehowah yir’eh! BEAUTIFUL!! This name of Yehowah is well known but I did not know yet, that it was in correlation with Mount Moriah.
Is this in Jewish tradition and understanding really so used for Mount Moriah? The dictionary sais so, that Yehowah Yir’eh i a symbolical name for Mt. Moriah…
meanwhile I also saw that Moriah is not teaching but rather “chosen by Yehowah”, right?
That really struck me now as I was watching this testimony only yesterday.
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/ark-cov-index.htm
First link goes to Video.
I am aware that this discovery and the testimony of this man are not accepted by everybody. But I have to watch these testimonies (also of the other findings) again and again – just two weeks ago YHWH granted that I could visit the five burned cities of the ex-Sittim valley again and found a huge brimstone this time…
Verse 14 and the promise that Elohim Yehowah will / would / did provide a lamb struck me in a special way today. It is so costly and dear to my heart.
And as I said. I am aware that the testimony of Ron is not accepted by everyone. But I wholeheartedly believe that every man and every woman and child must listen his testimony for himself/herself and then make a judgment in his heart. Whenever I hear his testimony, he comes across as humble, sincere and truthful, just as I experience when listening to Nehemia Gordon. It feeld in my heart like this small voice of Avinu, as Dale tells us over and over again. 🙂 (toda raba, Dale)…
so… good night from me. Looking very much forward to this fantastic journey together. You are already dear to my heart, as I was reading your posts. Really fantastic insights and outstanding posts!! Toda raba to all of you!!
Good night. 🙂
PS: A special wave to Judith in the Netherlands and the Browns in Germany… I am very happy to have some neigbours. :-))))
January 11, 2019 at 6:26 am /
Shalom Beatrice,
Like you, that which our Abba Father YHVH Revealed through Ron Wyatt is a Dearly Inseparable Part of My Heart. ?
Todah Raba Abba YHVH!
When it comes to that which Abba Shared through Ron, find my Attention Resting in the Wyatt Family website
https://www.ronwyatt.com
The name Moriyah – as I am currently Aware of – is Well translated as “seen of Yah” – YHVH will be Seen, will Appear, – will “Reveal” Himself as Abba Shares through Joseph in the post below – and by and through these Experiences in the “Timeless Oneness” that is He, will Tend to, will Provide for in what Abba Shares is “The Infinite Abundance of My Inseparable Presence and Provision Flowing Freely from the Storehouse of My Love – My Spirit”.
Todah Raba Abba YHVH!
As to the Name of our Abba Father YHVH, Abba Shares…
“YHVH is the Name I have Chosen for Myself and you come to Experience My Infinite Essence through Our Experiences Encountered Together along with My Descriptions of these Experiences as Originally Spoken by Me and Originally Recorded in Scripture which has since been transcribed, translated, chapterized and versified.
While there are those among you who teach that I have multiple names, this is not from Me but from the author of confusion and the father of lies himself.
I am One and I have One Name – YHVH – which I have given as a Remembrance to All generations.”
Todah Raba Abba YHVH!
Shalom v’Ahava B’Shem YHVH
Peace and Love in the Name of YHVH
Dale
January 11, 2019 at 1:46 pm /
שלום Dale,
Ugh. I didn’t clarify that I didn’t believe Avraham lied. I am sure he was answering in faith.
Thank you for pointing out my mistake.
שלום
Joseph
January 11, 2019 at 3:32 pm /
Dale,
Now a double Ugh! I made the reply to the wrong post! I meant it for yours to me, down below.
Joseph
January 11, 2019 at 4:16 pm /
We’re Good Joseph! ?
January 10, 2019 at 7:39 pm /
Question to a next topic if you allow: Gen 22:6 the burnt offering (H5930 olah) – is a sin offering (H2403 chatta’ah) also a burnt offering?
How do I know when the word chatta’ah describes just “sin” and when it is a “sin-offering”? Just by context or else?
I was wondering as this story and the words that Elohim himself would provide a lamb is according to what I believe a beautiful foreshadow to the Messiah. As I was many years just following the christian traditions and not upholding the Thora, it used to be said that Jesus is our ‘sin offering’. Meanwhile I believe that Yeshua is this provided lamb, but much more than “just” an offering for my sin.
I am interested to know, what your insights to the correlation between the olam and chattah’ah are? (Sorry…still a very beginner of Hebrew).
be blessed
Beatrice
January 11, 2019 at 5:41 am /
Shalom Beatrice,
Please, never apologize for your Heartfelt Presence and any questions or other matters Abba is Sharing through you in the Moment! ?
The first seven chapters in the Book of Vayyiqra (Leviticus) are where we Shama the Torah of the various offerings Appointed by our Abba Father YHVH.
This is the Torah of the burnt offering, of the grain offering, and of the sin offering, and of the guilt offering, and of the ordinations, and of the peace offering, which YHVH Instructed Moshe on Mount Siani, on the day when He Instructed the Children of Yisra’el to bring their offerings to YHVH, in the Wilderness of Sinai. – Vayyiqra 7:37-38
A sin offering is not a burnt offering, yet the sin offering is burned on the alter of the burnt offering.
As Abba Always Speaks within the “Timeless Oneness” that is He, we become Aware of the Essence of what He Shares in this same “Timeless Oneness” in the context of the portion of Scripture receiving our Heartfelt Attention within the entirety of Scripture as given by its Author.
In addition to what Abba Shares in “My Torah of Good News” which was Shared in an earlier post, He Shares this with us in regards to the Essence of these Experiences…
“Your Heartfelt Presence is a Sweet Fragrance to My Being.”
In the Walk of our Precious Messiah YHVH Yahoshua is Experienced what Abba Describes as “The Spirit of My Words”
Notice also as Abba Shares in the Perfect Love that is He…
“I command not your fearfully spiteful obedience, as My Instruction Encourages and Supports your Reverence – your Deeply Abiding Respect, Awe and Love – as I speak not at and to you, but With, For and Through you in the Tender and Sweet, Gentle yet Humbly Firm Love that is Me.”
Todah Raba Abba YHVH!
The Hebrew word tsavah – to instruct – and mitsvah – an instruction – are almost always translated as “command” and “commands” while the Hebrew word yaray – meaning both to revere and to fear – is translated as fear.
The Hebrew word shama – to hear – to Joyfully Feel and Follow with the Soft Heart of a Child – is mostly translated “obey”.
As Abba Shares…
“Translations such as “command”, “commands”, “fear” and “obey” – which are imposed upon Me via translated Scripture – are not of Me. In the nothingness of thought originating in the cold, hard, dark, and void of Life mind of the adversary this is what – in his self-imposed unquenchable burning lust for separation from Me – has become and is how he thinks Me to be.”
Todah Raba Abba YHVH!
May we All continue to Allow our Abba Father YHVH to Tenderly and Lovingly remove our rough edges so that we may continue to Experience Him as He is and not how we have been taught to think Him to be! ?
Shalom v’Ahava B’Shem YHVH
Peace and Love in the Name of YHVH
Dale
January 11, 2019 at 6:08 am /
Thank you very much, Dale!
January 10, 2019 at 7:23 pm /
I prefer to make a second post and split up themes…
I found it very interesting to look up the word nasah / to test, try, temp. (Thank you to the person who mentioned the AHLB dictionary. This was so interesting, as why it would be connected to a flag hanging on a pole… ??! First I was just puzzled. But as I kept on reading (also a good practise in a dictionary 😉 ) it really made a lot more sense!
…to lift up a standard
…to grab hold of one to perform
…to lift up a buren or load and carry it
… a test to prove one is deserved of being lifted up
These the onces that stood out for me. Unfortunately I am not yet at the point of understanding the grammar in hebrew and whether I can make all those connections or not. But in everything together, for me it certainly gives a bigger picture and understanding of what it means to be tested by YHWH.
By the way… is there also another word in hebrew which is making a difference between testing and tempting?
blessings,
Beatrice
January 11, 2019 at 11:02 pm /
Beatrice… Not sure how this Happened, but my reply is displayed as a separate thread below. ?
January 12, 2019 at 12:01 am /
Ok… now that the order of posts are reversed… above not below ?
January 10, 2019 at 7:10 pm /
4 minutes left and then Europe is on the 11th… I better hurry up as I wanted to engage since days…. 🙂 Shalom from Switzerland to everyone!
First, please still allow me a question from some previous chapters that is “burning my tongue” (German expression..):
Gen 4:26 / 12:8 / 26:25 to call upon the name Yehowah!
I have used some of these verses some time ago to explain to a friend, that also others, including Abraham already called Yehowah by name (as some are mislead by Exo 6,3 thinking that they did not know the name). Happily he accepted this testimony and joined in using the great and mighty name of our Creator.
Yet in one thing we still could not agree. He sais that “to call upon the name” is more than just addressing the Creator. It means the start of the ritual prayers and includes certain practises. Is this so? Is this known to anyone that “calling upon the name” is a kind of ritual? What is your understaning and insight?
To me it includes proclamation – to proclaim that Yehowah is creator and mighty Elohim – He alone and no other. Really looking forward to some comments!
Thanks!
Beatrice